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I find this JW behaviour disrespectful

by Bumble Bee in

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on saturday i was at a cousin's wedding.

neither bride or groom was jw, although her mother (my aunt) was jw but was df'd for smoking way back in the early '70's and i doubt the bride (my cousin) remembers anything anymore.. her older brother said a prayer before the dinner.

it was a very beautiful prayer imho, and maybe he remembers a bit more of the jw experience, it started and ended like what you'd hear in a kh, but the middle was actually said from the heart and filled with love for the new couple and our family and the friends present.. i bowed my head and said amen afterwards.

Bumble Bee

candidilynuts

my dad would always nod at the end of a non jw prayer. dunno why lol.. i just remembered that.

That sounds like a cute thing he did. Atleast he was acknowledging the prayer in his own way.

Finally Free

On the other hand, there were many occasions when I was a JW when I didn't say "Amen" to prayers given by JWs at the hall or BS because I didn't always agree with the content of the prayers.

This was my situation when I was at the end of my tenure attending the KH. I found it very hard to say "Amen" and would often say my own silent prayers.

greendawn

I remember as a dub I did that also a few times and felt embarassed afterwards, I remember how they frighten them about participating with other religions which are satanic.

It's a sick isolationist mentality,

Yes, fear is a factor. In this instance I don't think that was the case though. It was just that the prayer was said by a non-JW.

Sweetp0985

I've seen this before too. At a cousin's wedding(non-JW) when the preacher was praying none of my JW relatives bowed their heads or anything....but funny part was..at the reception they were the first ones out on the floor shaking they butts...

Yep, that is usually the case. I'm surprised your JW relatives went to the service, usually that is a no-no if it's held in a church. Gill

Personally, (and my parents are the only relatives who have anything to do with us now) but I find it impossible to bow my head when they say a prayer to the war God Jehovah. I just cannot do it. They are praying to someone who they anticipate will wipe out 6 billion men women and children.
Though I agree that the JW attitude to other religions prayers is disrespectful, I still find, I have to have the same 'stand back' stance when it comes to their prayers to Jehovah.

I can understnand where you are coming from. But this prayer was a sincerely heartfelt loving prayer regarding a much loved sister and her new husband, our family and the special friends gathered there for the wedding. Maybe they couldn't acknowledge it because he didn't use the name "Jehovah"? I don't know. The prayer started pretty much the same way they start in the KH - only he said "Father" instead. Closed the prayer "in Jesus name, Amen". They could have said their own prayer at the same time, that is what I was told to do back when they still said the Lord's Prayer in school. We were to be respectful. The thing that bothers me is all our non-JW relatives are expected to come to the KH whenever there is a wedding or funeral, participate etc, and if they don't are talked about and ridiculed for not wanting to come to the KH. (This has happened with Pentacostal relatives.) But, when it is the JW families turn to do those same things they refuse to enter a church. BB

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I find this JW behaviour disrespectful

by Bumble Bee in

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on saturday i was at a cousin's wedding.

neither bride or groom was jw, although her mother (my aunt) was jw but was df'd for smoking way back in the early '70's and i doubt the bride (my cousin) remembers anything anymore.. her older brother said a prayer before the dinner.

it was a very beautiful prayer imho, and maybe he remembers a bit more of the jw experience, it started and ended like what you'd hear in a kh, but the middle was actually said from the heart and filled with love for the new couple and our family and the friends present.. i bowed my head and said amen afterwards.

Bumble Bee

On Saturday I was at a cousin's wedding. Neither bride or groom was JW, although her mother (my aunt) was JW but was DF'd for smoking way back in the early '70's and I doubt the bride (my cousin) remembers anything anymore.

Her older brother said a prayer before the dinner. It was a very beautiful prayer IMHO, and maybe he remembers a bit more of the JW experience, it started and ended like what you'd hear in a KH, but the middle was actually said from the heart and filled with love for the new couple and our family and the friends present.

I bowed my head and said Amen afterwards. I peeked across the table and saw that my mother and sister had thier heads up and did not say Amen. They could have atleast bowed their heads and said their own prayer for the couple. I thought it very disrespectful.

I know they've done this before at several other family occasions when a prayer was offered.

I think if the situation was reversed they'd be upset over this type of behaviour. It's happened when a family member didn't want to attend a funeral at a KH and they were disgusted, but my mom and sister refused to go to the church for the wedding. They only see their side/point of view, and feel their position is so superior.

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Show us your picture

by Honesty in

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that is, if you are able to without the prospect of facing a three-man kangaroo court appointed by jerhover to keep the congregation clean from apostate influences.. i'll go first: .

Bumble Bee

This is me taking a break from snowmobiling a year ago. It was a crappy day for it, freezing rain. You can see the ice all over my jacket. Oh well, it was certainly better snowmobiling than working!!

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Are there not enough anti-Witness books out there?

by free2beme in

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every once in awhile i will read comments about someone thinking a new anti-witness book needs to be written, to expose something.

well, recently i took the time to look over the search engines of the internet and found something interesting.

when you type in "jehovah's witness" or "watchtower", you found almost 3 to 1, negative sites and information on the witnesses.

Bumble Bee

No, there may not be a shortage, but for someone genuinely researching the JW's and looking for information, the more anti JW books the better.

When I was in school and did a search in my school library about JW's all I could come up with was in the section on cults. I read everything I could, but there wasn't too much at the time.

If someone was studying with a JW and wanted outside research on the JW's, if there were more anti JW books than pro JW books, hopefully would make them think twice about becoming a JW.

I don't think there could ever be too many anti JW books.

BB

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Panic attacks and Jehovahs Witness!

by Gill in

how many of you had panic attacks when you were a jw and when leaving?

i know of many jw women and a few men who suffered badly with panic attacks.

since recently having another spate of panic attacks i suddenly realised that i had been having them all my life.

Bumble Bee

Since I've stopped attending the KH I really don't have panic attacks anymore.

I was always a nervous child (had some pretty tramuatic things happen as a young child). I had a peptic ulcer by the time I was 7 years old. I'd get an attack of nerves having to go door to door, answer or give a talk.

I suffered panic attacks when I had become "inactive" and we'd attempt to go to the KH. I'd get ready to go but just couldn't get out of the house. I couldn't walk into the KH anymore.

My mother suffers from panic attacks quite often. They are pretty severe at times. She's still regularly attending the KH.

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I've received three invites!

by Bumble Bee in

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wow, we must really be on someones radar.

we've recieved three intives to the assembly next weekend.

two were just put in the letter box.

Bumble Bee

As one of my JW relatives would say "the angels are directing them to you".......You must be giving off some kinda smell that only JW's can detect, lol.

Well, considering what I had been doing that day, I definately didn't smell like the flowers I was planting!!! lol BB

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I've received three invites!

by Bumble Bee in

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wow, we must really be on someones radar.

we've recieved three intives to the assembly next weekend.

two were just put in the letter box.

Bumble Bee

Did you know these two elders? Or do they make it a point to come into your backyard regularly? That would have pissed me off.

Purza,

I know the one elder, but just on a superficial basis. He's an older man, was moved to our cong and the territory boundaries changed for him and his son (also an elder) because our hall needed elders. He's quite elderly and not in the best of health.

I wasn't too happy to see them - I'd been digging gardens etc all morning, and just was finishing up cutting the grass. My hair was a mess, I was dirty and sweaty. Why can't I look like Martha after she's been digging around in her garden!!!! ;-)

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Invite

by BritBoy in

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we had popped through our letterbox today the following: "you are cordially invited to attend the deliverance at hand district convention of jw's" at the national ice arena nottingham, uk.. now let me tell you, it is the tackiest flimsiest invite i ever did see.

the paper is so thin it's almost tissue paper.

the cover has three black & white pictures along the top which includes a picture of a rather healthy looking woman holding a child with the heading under it reading "poverty".

Bumble Bee

Brit Boy, I know what you mean about the tract - I've got THREE of them to look at!!

I too was "born" into it, but I'm not sure I ever really believed it deep down. When I stopped going and tried to look back on just what exactly my beliefs were I couldn't really come up with too much. I don't know what I believed then and I still don't know what I believe now. I had to totally rethink everything I thought I knew.

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I've received three invites!

by Bumble Bee in

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wow, we must really be on someones radar.

we've recieved three intives to the assembly next weekend.

two were just put in the letter box.

Bumble Bee

welllll ain't you special...

I like to feel special, somehow this ain't cutting it!! lol

Yeah, you must be ripe for re-conversion!
Jehoobers trying to tell you something...

Say it isn't so!!!!!!!!!!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! lol

Broken Hearted I'm not sure about the mail box thing here in Canada. BB

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I've received three invites!

by Bumble Bee in

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wow, we must really be on someones radar.

we've recieved three intives to the assembly next weekend.

two were just put in the letter box.

Bumble Bee

Wow, we must really be on someones radar. We've recieved three intives to the assembly next weekend. Two were just put in the letter box. The first one I think was from someone that doesn't know we were JW because that was the only thing in there. Thursday I was in the back yard cutting the grass and I got "caught". One of the elders in the hall came around to the back yard when he heard the mower, just about scared me out of my skin!! He left two mags and told me the CO was at our cong this week.

This morning there were two more mags and another invite in the letter box. I was home all morning and they didn't knock (if they did the dogs would have barked). Must have just been a "visit" to let the CO know they called on all the inactive ones in the territory!

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